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By Sam Thompson, University of Liverpool
Firstly, many thanks for the opportunity to attend the Grizedale
summit. It was a privilege to spend time in a beautiful place with
such interesting and committed people. I completed agree with
Gill’s point that two-days would have been even better!
Reflecting back on the day, I’m aware that I was playing the
awkward devil’s advocate in the final plenary (I hope this wasn’t
uncomfortable for anyone!). The reason, I think, is because I
strongly resist the idea – which seemed to be an undercurrent of
the session – that social scientists trying to understand how the
world works are in the domain of (to quote from Michael Davis’
summary piece) “logic, cold numbers and reason”, as if this is
incompatible with profound experiential knowledge of the kind that
we often value in the arts. I think this kind of “science from the
head, art from the soul” discourse is unhelpful, inaccurate and,
potentially, divisive.
But I thought it might be worth exploring this a bit further, as a
contribution to our post-summit conversation.
In his summary, Michael Davis notes that “One of the
difficulties of taking part only in discussion with arts groups is
the continual drift back toward arts thinking.” We might well ask:
what is “arts thinking”? I guess this could mean many things, but
in my experience, one characteristic is a tendency towards
idolisation – of the art work, of arts praxis and in some cases of
the artist themselves. For me, “arts thinking” is sometimes
reflected in a desire to bracket-off “the arts” as something
different from the rest of human activity, impervious to analysis
by the tools and methods by which we make sense of everything else.
It’s not a way of thinking that I share, and to explain, I’ll
digress to an area of artistic endeavour where I have more personal
experience…
I studied music at university and spent many years as a
passionately enthusiastic classical musician. During this time, I
frequently came across people – often wonderful, insightful
musicians – who were quite opposed to the idea of analysing music
or even, in some cases, studying it academically at all. Music was
magical, ineffable, resistant to deconstruction and inexplicable
through words (“Writing about music”, as Frank Zappa is alleged to
have said, “is like dancing about architecture”). Attempting to
lift the bonnet and dismantle the engine was dangerous – what if
you couldn’t put it back together again? You might never able to
enjoy music again in the same way! Worse, wasn’t it all a bit
unnecessary and, frankly, tawdry? After all, if you really got
music, you wouldn’t feel the need to question it.
This never made any sense to me. Not because I didn't “get” the
magic of music – I lived for it, and still do – but precisely
because I got it. I knew first-hand that music was amazing,
powerful and transformative, and I wanted to know why! And I
thought that by knowing how it worked, I’d have have more chance of
helping other people experience something of what I did when I
listened and played.
Back to Grizedale. The thing that excited me most about the
Grizedale project was that it seems to be an exceptionally generous
and open-hearted attempt to render the arts more inclusive and
relevant. I love the questioning of “art” as such, the
democratisation, exploring the idea of the artist as social actor
and agitator, the enthusiasm about making links to history and
community, situating arts practice in the context of wider social
and political challenges.
And yet, throughout the day I kept feeling that there was
resistance to defining social outcomes, dislike of thinking about
the project as (even in part) instrumentalism, reluctance to
acknowledge that there might be elements of a Grizedale “model”
that could be distilled and transferred to other settings,
discomfort with adopting an objective and analytic stance… For me,
these are examples of the “continual drift towards arts thinking”
that Michael warns of – because to embrace rather than resist them
would also be, in a way, to normalise Grizedale and render it
tractable and explicable. It would be opening the bonnet and
peering inside the Grizedale engine.
Arts thinking – or, at least, the kind I’m talking about – worries
that once you’ve allowed this move, the magic disappears. But I’m
not so sure. For instance, it was noted in the plenary that some of
what Grizedale does looks a lot like asset based (but non arts
based) community development. This seemed to provoke a degree of
discomfort, followed by reiteration that Grizedale is unique,
individual and so on. But where is the threat? It would be
extraordinary indeed if some of the characteristics that make
Grizedale successful were not common to other approaches. It’s not
clear to me how Grizedale’s uniqueness is put in jeopardy by saying
this out loud.
We also talked a good deal about defining outcomes and that dread
word “measurement”. Again, there seemed to be a strong resistance,
couched as a concern to avoid instrumentalism. But again, I don’t
see it. Using, for instance, socio-economic impact tools to
understand the changes that come about during a Grizedale
initiative does not thereby “reduce” Grizedale to “just” those
impacts. It doesn’t devalue the project as a whole. It doesn’t stop
it being art.
I could go on (and on, and on…) but I’m sure there’s already plenty
there for people to disagree with, so I’ll stop for now. Thoughts
on a postcard…
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Hi Bernadette - thanks for inviting me to the Grizedale summit. I enjoyed it - an interesting set of people, tho I am not entirely at home in an academic talking shop. I wasn't totally convinced by Grizedale Arts, and have pulled no punches in my critique. Be it understood however that this an argument, inviting counter-argument. with all good wishes - Matthew
THE GRIZEDALE PROJECT
This strikes me as very experimental. So was the original Grizedale
forest sculpture project of 1968.
This project, Grizedale 1 for short, has undoubtedly run its
course. Indeed it had a built-in obsolescence since the sculpture
used primarily found materials - wind, water, stone, wood, leaf
litter - which naturally decay.
Yet what I might call Grizedale 2 seems to define itself in
opposition to Grizedale 1, as being everything that Grizedale 1 is
not. That was Art to improve the quality of life (or whatever the
phrase was), and aimed primarily at visitors. These are disparaged.
Grizedale 2 seems to be wary of Art and of any definition of what
art is or what it does, to be dubious of the word improvement, and
to scorn visitors in favour of villagers.
But art does improve the quality of life, however you define those
words. Why be shy about it? And visitors have largely defined the
quality of Lake District life since 1750. Why scorn them? Ruskin,
Collingwood, Rawnsley, Arthur Ransome, Beatrix Potter, Wainwright -
all visitors. It would be interesting to know how many present-day
Coniston villagers came here originally as visitors.
I would like to see the achievement of Grizedale 1 given its due,
and to see Grizedale 2 build upon it - in a new direction by all
means - rather than set itself up in a separate kingdom in
opposition to it. I have seen this happen before, to the detriment
of the whole, at Dartington. There the placing of departments into
separate kingdoms, each upon its own hill, was highly symbolic of
the fragmentation of the college ethos. Do we see the same thing
happening here?
Grizedale 2 seems to depend almost entirely on the enterprise and
ideas of the director, Adam, who cheerfully acknowledged past
failures but given a long rope may well bring off a triumphant
success here. But the direction and focus, and even definition of
purpose, are not there yet. A negative definition, as I have
suggested above, is not enough.
It is interesting that Grizedale 2 is ambitiously international in
scope, and yet at the same time intensely local. This duality can
be compared with two of the most interesting artists that have
fetched up in Cumbria, Kurt Schwitters and Li Yuan Chia. Li in
particular created a place and whole environment for others to work
creatively, in any medium, and to exhibit their work.
Social Change and Sustainable Development. Good food improves the
quality of life. Sustainable development improves the quality of
food. Social change is, we hope, in a positive direction i.e. an
improvement. Is food production an artistic endeavour? Maybe some
redefining of boundaries is called for here - or maybe it is best
to get on with it and worry about definitions and boundaries
later.
I think Grizedale 1 has been given rather more than its dues - Grizedale 2 was a response to it, led by artists keen to distance themselves from the former work. We are currently in Grizedale 3 (for the past 5 years) which is not anti visitor it is anti the exploitation of the visitor and the consequent exploitation by the visitor - the antagonistic and traditional form of tourism promoted by development agencies. The historic precedents of Ruskin et al illustrate an embedded relationship to place which Grizedale 3 follows - engaging with visitors to participate, to build a culture.
I could easily argue that Grizedale 1 was the negative response to place - denying the real richness of rural culture in favour of a sugar coated vision of rural tweeness - still very apparent today as a monocultural approach to landscape and rural culture.
I would also point out that failure in terms of Grizedale 2 is relative - those 'failures' produced the generation of artists now centre stage in the art world - an achievement that G1 did not manage.
These initial responses were sent by email by Dr Gillian Whiteley:
Thoughts on format of event
I felt that we didn't have enough time to get to know the GA
history through to current projects to evaluate what's going on at
GA enough to also comment on it in any meaningful and
non-superficial way. That said, sometimes coming in 'cold' to a
situation does facilitate critical distance that can then aid
insight. In this case though, I felt we didn't get enough detached
in-depth focus discussion sessions. More intensive smaller group
sessions might have been useful as I felt we barely scratched the
surface in many ways as the group of diverse academics (and
approaches) needed some introduction/familiarisation with each
other too.
Maybe if it had been over two days, we might have had time to do
this.
The final 'plenary' session felt a little forced and
uncomfortable – partly as I felt objectives of the day were unclear
as to whether (primarily) the day had been about introducing GA
(and its potential for some new collaborative projects etc) to us
or (primarily) seeking review of GAs projects/processes and
'achievements'.
All that said, the openness of GA to our comments and reflections
was remarkable also. But its much better to reflect on what
occurred and what might be followed up with critical (and real)
distance/time after the event.
A few more thoughts/questions…
Event though it resists it and thinks it works 'with' not 'at' etc, is GA operating a form of 'avant gardism', is it a form of philanthropy? Is the lack of focus/ethos a problem? Is it disingenuous anyway as there is a 'manifesto' on the wall in the GA library – and it had 11 theses (a ref to Marx?) I noted!
Is there a fear of becoming a 'model' - why?
There was an aim espoused to challenge models of relational aesthetics cos they are all speaking to the galllery - but there is long history/are plenty of artists/etc who also primarily work to break that down and operate outside gallery settings .
Is GA fostering conviviality or radicality? Is it
smoothing over social (class) difference and making community
convivial? How does GA relate to 'community', communities,
public/publics - counter–publics?
What about social class/property relations/ownership etc in lake
district?
Can an organisation grow organically only as long as its small
scale?
Dangers of philanthropy conviviality as affirmation of bourgeois
values – do they offer no real challenge to neoliberalism or
capitalism at all? Does that matter? How does GA activities
relate to recent occupations rebellions and other global issues?
Is GA local, global, parochial?
How does GA engage with notions of mutuality, cooperation, DIY
cultures?
Does GA as an organisation need to wither away and if it did what
would its activities become? Would it matter? Back to questions of
ethos, aims, 'mission' etc…
Idiosyncracy and irreverance for all systems is essential (in my
view) but if no ethos then does it become playground for
artists?
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An introduction by Michael Davis
The recent academic summit at Grizedale Arts, the first of it’s
kind, was something of a curiosity to take part in. Grizedale’s
broad approach to art and it’s holistic way of working branches
into many different disciplines - namely agriculture, architecture,
social work, community development, design and ecology. So the
thinking behind this summit was to gather academics whose interests
sit between and overlap these areas, in order to solidify and
reappraise Grizedale’s methodology from an outside perspective,
rather than the more common art orientated discussions. One of the
difficulties of taking part only in discussion with arts groups is
the continual drift back toward arts thinking - and this in effect
was an attempt to ascertain whether the Grizedale model (in it’s
current form) could be sustainable outside of the arts bubble, as a
viable and accountable programme, if transposed to another
disciplinary area, without reliance on being an arts project. To
begin this discussion, the summit gathered experts and academics
from fields such as agriculture, nutrition, horticulture, history,
landscape design, architecture, community arts, psychology, social
science and social care. The event began with a talk by Grizedale
Art’s director and deputy director on the history of projects,
showing the full spectrum of engagement, from folk festivals and
village projects to design consultation for one of China’s largest
new city parks. The day was divided into break out groups and
reconvened conversations - the thrust of which was the further
development of Grizedale’s working process, whether as a design for
living, a hub for research networks or opportunities for
post-graduate studies.
Grizedale Arts is at a point of development where it could
conceivably become an independent organisation without requiring
specifically Arts Council subsidy. Grizedale as a model is very
close to a number of different commercially viable models, and it
could possibly be used as a model for a number of other
organisations such as organic free-range hill farms, or village
development programmes, or community outreach centres, and as it
stands Grizedale is already looked at as a model for other arts
organisations. This was a crucial topic throughout the summit: is
it possible to formalise Grizedale’s model without damaging it? Can
what is necessarily a chaotic freeform practice be solidified and
used as a template in order to replicate and rescale it? And if so,
what are the specific measurable virtues and benefits compared to
other, similar models and programmes? What are the politics present
in the Grizedale’s process? One problematic and oppositional view
put forward to this idea of creating a reproducible model was that
Grizedale is too embroiled in it’s specifics to be transferable -
for example it could not function with different staff, because for
one thing, so much of the programme is motivated by self interests
- the idea that Adam, Alistair and Maria, with their idiosyncratic
views and humour, are citizens of the lakes too is integral to many
of the projects, and any attempt to transfer the model
without this individual human input would leave only a husk. What
is at play here then is the rough collision of academia, in the
best Aristotelian tradition of logic, cold numbers and reason, with
passionate individual opinions, ethics and quality judgements. Are
these modes entirely mutually exclusive? Another proposition which
met with general agreement was the idea that is there is indeed
measurable, qualifiable benefit to all parties present in the
process, whatever that may be, then it can be reduced to that and
replicated - if only as a bare principle, a facet of the overall
animal. But again this advances the conundrum of how to measure and
qualify the outcomes of Grizedale’s work, without resorting to
alienating methods such as questionnaires and guinea pig studies.
For these processes will undoubtedly undo the majority of
beneficial outcomes; trust, friendship, fellowship, goodwill,
honesty, money, gifts and so on. This problem of observing without
altering has been left, ostensibly, unsolved so far.
Another of the points broached in the conference was whether there
is enough definition in Grizedale’s aims and goals. Whether that is
in the old mission statement, untouched from the 70s; to use art to
improve the conditions of life - or the more recent aims, to make
art more interesting, to make art and artists useful - there is a
lack of specifics. Is there a difficulty in finishing these
sentences? Does the limitations of including specifics out weigh
the stability they would potentially provide?
Grizedale’s preoccupation with the reinstatement of usage, or use
value, within the arts, also featured in the debate - with
questions raised on how to achieve a change in the fashion of arts,
and it’s funding, for not-directly-useful projects. The suggestion
was for Grizedale to act as a connecting point for similarly social
minded arts organisations in order to achieve this change, which
although present, are thin and widely spread in the UK, creating
formalised and interdependent projects, and greater consensus. This
is of course something Grizedale already work toward on a variety
of levels, but larger numbers and closer connections will be
required to reach a critical mass.
The hope is that this seminar will prove the ground for further
research and development in many different directions, but as with
all things Grizedale, is was never going to be simple. Further
thoughts on the issues raised will follow below.
Michael Davis is an artist and writer
The Grizedale Summit was held on 29 May 2012 in the village of Coniston. It was organised by Grizedale Arts with Bernadette Lynch to open up some of the processes and thinking of the organisation to academics from university departments beyond the the confines of the visual arts and art theory.
The following blog is designed as a record of the summit, a point of discussion and a tool to analyse how Grizedale Arts might be relevant to the wider socio-cultural evolution.
The delegates who attended were:
Dr.Clive Parkinson, Director of Arts for Health
at Manchester Metropolitan University
Dr Gillian Whiteley, Loughborough University
School of Arts, Senior Lecturer Critical and Historical Studies
Dr. Sam Thompson , Senior Research Fellow in
health inequalities at the University of Liverpool and Senior
Lecturer in psychology at the University of East London.
Dr. Carissa Honeywell , Lecturer in Politics, Sheffield Hallam University
Professor Sarah Banks,
School of Applied
Social Sciences,
Durham University
Martin Hewitt, Head of History, Politics and
Philosophy, Manchester Metropolitan University
Dr Bram Vanhoutte , Centre for Census and Survey
Research at the University of Manchester to work on the Frailty,
Resilience and Inequality in Later Life (FRAILL) project, sponsored
by the Medical Research Council.
Dr. Derek Lynch , Canada Research Chair in
Organic Agriculture, Dalhousie University in Halifax, Canada.
Dr Karen Dennis, University of Huddersfield.
Matthew Hyde, architectural historian and the
author of the new 'Pevsner' for Cumbria
Clare Cooper
, co-founder and co-director of the
Mission Models Money (MMM) programme.
Dr. Becky Sobell, Senior Lecturer in Landscape
Architecture, Manchester School of Architecture, Manchester
Metropolitan University
Professor Charlie Gere , Reader in New Media
Research, Lancaster Institute for the Contemporary Arts
Dear Alistair,
I have read with interest the ongoing debate around the role of institutions and natural landscape. As part of my research at the MA Research Architecture, Goldsmiths one of the critical conflicts around spatial practise is the proposal to give fundamental rights to nature involving a forensic analysis of power relations and of the production of image dispositifs. In respecting natural rights we make space through a new engagement towards an imminent aesthetic but first we have to separate out nature from culture. As both artist and engineer and having a close working relationship with the Lake District the Heideggarian 'enframing' may be the problem whereas following on from the recent TATE topography series developing a model that uses 'transformational' modes such as Mathematics coupled with duration and intuition I am confident a new model could be defined.
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I see no mystery in Grizedale and its approach - it certainly mirrors what many other agencies are doing - what marks it as different is that it has come to this way of working through an unusual route, the art path - an unsatisfactory blind alley that requires direction and a good deal of clearing out.
I believe the example and the working are entirely measurable and replicable - I just wish the rest of the art world would get on with it and stop wasting creative people and public money chasing an outmoded concept of what art is for.
Equally I think there are some interesting elements of the approach that could influence social and welfare agencies (and we have a lot to learn from them), adding a creative component can be helpful - not an art project just a way of doing things, an awareness of other possibilities, a visual conciousness and a 'join the dots' approach - all make for a richer version, without needing to be the raison d'etre.
Adam Sutherland
Anonymous, June 15, 2012 08:02
Dear Sam,
Thank you for the input, although I fear you may have gotten the wrong end of my stick somewhat. It wasn't my intention to regurgitate the tired old dichotomy between scientific thinking and artistic thinking, rather it was to flag a disjunction which was apparent in discussion - it seemed a shame to me that so much of the day was spent in attempted categorisation (cause categories change don'cha know.) The sentence you quoted frequently from was only a reference to the kind of critical theory that pervades the art world - i.e. the mystification of process and reification of exposure, the drive to make esoteric objects for the sake of it, endemic commericalisation, and so on.
The act of examining, as you put it, the engine, is certainly not divisive but perhaps the quality of approach is a point of divergence. In fact much of what Grizedale does, in my humble opinion at least, is directly engaged with examining the affects of design and aesthetics - a very broad catchment indeed - in an attempt to reinstate the dynamic, textural role of creativity at the centre of community - rather than in auction rooms and galleries. One would certainly hope that this is neither mysterious nor unique!
I wonder if that clears things up, at all.
Michael Davis, June 15, 2012 20:51